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Met another great friend on Zaadz yesterday - great discussion

Posted on Jan 24th, 2007 by backyarder1 : Freelance Thinker backyarder1
I love good discussions! And they have been so lacking in my life lately. Had another fun one on a Zaadz pod yesterday. We were talking about enlightenment.

Here are snippets from the conversation:

New Friend: Going back to the origination of the topic, "How good do you want it to get?" and the experience that you, backyarder1, shared about your day of enlightenment, I just wanted to add my voice to the mix....I have had several such days in my life and have been infinitely grateful for those experiences. I also think that those moments/days of "bliss" are powerful lessons, precursors perhaps, for a "next plane of existence"....whether that be an after-life or a re-birth or something else, I have no idea. I don't know that all the "studying" and "practicing" that I might do in this life will get me any closer to an answer and I don't believe that I "need" to know....

Me: I think of my day of bliss like this. Perhaps it was a glimpse into Heaven. What I can have for eternity if I strive to live a good life.

My view of Heaven and Hell are that we create our own here on earth but it still fits. If I continue to live a good life, perhaps I can get back to that feeling of bliss.

New Friend:

I completely resonate with your statement that Heaven and Hell are what we create here on earth. And I love your notion that your day of bliss was a glimpse of Heaven in eternity for you....


I'm of the mind that our physical bodies cannot actually handle a bliss-full state for a prolonged, extended period of time....perhaps the Buddha and certain sages and yogis who hermetically seal themselves in caves or ashrams or monasteries can approach the kind of physical state that allows them to house such blissful feelings for a long duration but, for the rest of us, that is next-to-impossible....living in a world where you have bills to pay and people to interact with and whatnot.


I don't intend to get pornographic, but I know that there is no way that my body could withstand an orgasm for hours on end....it gets downright uncomfortable if it lasts longer than a few minutes!


Perhaps, the blissful states that we get to experience in this life are precursors, or glimpses, into a future state where we have an increased capacity - physically, mentally, emotionally, etc. - to handle such intensity of feeling/being for longer periods of time, or forever....

Me: again I agree with you. We don't THINK that we can handle extreme bliss. I know that sometimes I feel so good that I feel like I might explode. But maybe we could handle it if we let it happen.  Your comparison with sex is really a good one even if we don't want to get on the subject of sex. Sex is all about letting go and it is very difficult for some people to do. It takes complete trust and relaxation and ease.

Maybe the same is true with bliss. Maybe we have to trust that God (or whatever supreme being there is) WANTS us to have extreme bliss and we have to trust that if we allow it come, it will be all right. The world won't end.

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For those of you that haven't found the pods yet, I encourage you to take a look!

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